Posts by manosteel9423

  • MYTVOnline apk

    Buffering can be caused by many issues. First of all, check your connection and speeds. If you are using wifi, I suggest not doing that. Hardwire the box to your modem or router. Secondly, we would need to know what speed you are getting to the box, especially if you are on wifi. Use the Speedtest app in the market. Lastly, check with other people who are using your provider and find out if they have similar buffering issues.

  • MYTVOnline apk

    Not sure what you are asking. If you bought a Z7+ it was presumably to use the MyTVOnline app for watching IPTV. Its the whole reason for buying the box!

    If its not already installed on the box...and it should be...just download it from the market. The open it and send the MAC address to your reseller. Wait for them to tell you its been activated and they will send you a URL to enter into the portal. Then watch TV.

  • MYTVOnline apk

    Quote from Bully

    they may sell lots in google play store but the sell of formuler boxes will go down.

    And that's the rub, isn't it?

    Make the APK available to the masses and lose box sales. Do you want to be a software developer only or a hardware developer that creates their own proprietary software. I think we all know what Formuler has chosen.

  • Tweak Z7+ to have smooth playback of FHD channels

    I have found that some providers FHD channels work better than others. I had the same issue with one provider, yet not another. Both providers worked flawlessly with another watching method but one struggled on the Z7 while the other worked perfectly. I don’t know why.

    Could be an encoding issue where the default player for the Z7 doesn’t work well with this streams? Maybe try another service and see if its better for you.

  • EU vs NA Version Forumer Z7+ Question

    Quote from FanZ7+

    Thanks @seanns32 and SAM.

    I am using Ethernet connection with Z7+ and have no issues. The only reason, I want to use gigabit hub to take advantage of my gigabit speed when using a VPN. I am not sure whether it will help to get better speed or not as VPN's are very slow (using Windows based computers). I have VPN with lifetime subscription and want to use it on Z7+. Any comment please. Thanks.

    That's actually a valid question. I don't use a VPN, so I don't know exactly how they work. My understanding is that you will always be limited by the VPN server, so logically it would follow that the speed you are achieving without a VPN would not matter as long as it was more than the VPN would generate. So, if you were getting 100 mb/s without VPN and the VPN slowed it to 30 mb/s, it wouldn't matter if you were getting 1000 mb/s without the VPN, it would still be slowed to 30 mb/s. At least, logically, that's how I see it. I don't believe a VPN diminishes your speed as a percentage of what's available, I think its whatever limit is on that server at that time.

    Perhaps someone with a better understanding of VPNs could chime in?

  • EU vs NA Version Forumer Z7+ Question

    I'm hardwired into the EU version of the box with a 120mb/s connection that I can verify via wifi on my phone. I have never gotten anywhere near that speed while testing on the box (I think 60 mb/s is about the max I've gotten), nor do I need it. I have no idea why anyone would spend money on a Gigabit adapter for this box. Its pointless. If you are getting a consistent 20-30 mb/s+ on the box through a LAN connection, you have more than enough speed to watch whatever you want. I suppose you could download apps a bit faster but I've never had an app take more than a few seconds to download as it is.

    Now, if we are talking about wifi, I can understand wanting to have the wifi dongle to ensure that you are getting the strongest, most consistent signal available to you. I have a Z Nano that I use in the basement on wifi and I've never had an issue with the internal wifi, but its also a TV that I only watch occasionally. If my main TV was on wifi, I would probably buy the dongle to be sure I was getting a strong, consistent signal.

  • March/April Update

    Quote from seanns32

    So until the EPG is pulled in the next update, do we just get zero EPG if we sign-in to MYTVONLINE the new way (via username & password), or is it just slow to pull in?

    m3u has no EPG support at all.

    XC API portals (username/password) will load the EPG the old fashioned way one page at a time. The new EPG Puller doesn't work with them yet. Haven't tested the official release, but in the Beta the API portals also usually required you to set the EPG to UTC in your settings or the time would be off. May have been fixed with official release?

  • March/April Update

    Interesting. I used to use Kodi quite a bit on the box specifically for VOD. VOD in MOL is a nightmare to find anything in, so I preferred the kodi plugin for one particular provider for finding, and watching, their VOD. Then they came out with APK that was a nicer interface for VOD so I use that now and haven't used kodi in a couple of months. In fact, pretty sure I deleted it from my box.

    When I was using it, I never had any serious issues with it, so I'm thinking it must be a compatibility issue with the new firmware. Hopefully the stable full release will address that issue.

  • March/April Update

    Quote from intellinet

    Thank you for the answers but "soon" means nothing for me and my customers.
    I've bought 40 devices and maybe more "soon".
    I need more than "soon". Customers deserve better than "soon" as an answer. they want their séries.
    Thank you.

    Why are you being a dick?

    nobody held a gun to your head to make you buy 40 boxes. They are working on the issues. If thats not good enough, learn to write code and fix them yourself. Seriously, it boggles my mind the entitled BS that comes from some people! Buying a product does not give you the right to demand it works the way you want it to!

    Last time I checked this was an iPTV box and it plays IPTV just fine. All this other stuff...TV series, etc...is periphery. It’ll work when they make it work.

  • will not come out of standby mode (red light stays on)

    Quote from wullboy

    I've holding back for about a month before i go and buy one of these boxes, but, the more i read on here about this box, the more i'm being put off buying it, as ive never had a androids box before, some on the issue i read about, seem a bit daunting, not switching on seems a very basic action for it to be giving issues, But will read on.......

    I have purchased 5 of these boxes now for myself and family and friends. None of them have had an issue with not powering on. There is a glitch about not coming out of standby that is corrected by setting the box to actually power off instead of going into standby. Formuler has also apparently fixed this issue in their current Beta that should be release in the next week or two to the public.

    As with any piece of technology, there will always be lemons. I've read about a few people getting the box and it never properly operates. I've seen the same thing with any device, but its a pretty rare issue.

    If you are planning to buy any type of android box with the intention of watching IPTV, you would be hard pressed to find one better equipped than the Z7+ in my opinion.

  • Z7+ wont power on!

    As Sam suggested, just unplug it and plug it back in. From standby there is a known issue with it not powering back on and its being worked in in the current Beta. For now, set your box to Power Off instead of Standby in your settings menu to avoid this issue until the next update.

  • Xtream-Editor

    Quote from Levy9

    Hi, I’ve followed this thread and got my Z7+ working with my Xtream Editor by creating a new Mag line and assigning the EPG.

    The IPTV works great and I love the layout of MOL, but I also receive issues with the slow EPG which hopefully the update will fix that.

    My main question is, once my EPG has eventually loaded its running one hour behind and I can’t see an option to sync that within MOL or Xtream Editor, has anyone else experienced this and know the solution?

    Thanks

    Just to answer one of your questions...the slow EPG with Xtream-Editor's mag portal has not been fixed with the Beta. Any API portal or mag.xtream-editor.com portal you use loads the EPG the old fashioned way of scrolling page by page in the EPG unfortunately. This has been brought to the attention of the developers but there has been no news on any potential fix at this point. The new EPG puller works very well with standard stalker portals.

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    My understanding was always that it would be released sometime towards the end of March.

    I think the support that Formuler provides for their boxes is outstanding considering the medium they are catering to. You look around at similar products, like the MAGs and Buzz boxes, and the support for them is nowhere near what Formuler puts out there. Formuler is still supporting their older boxes with constant updates and upgrades...can you say that about the older Infomir products? Nope.

    Comparing it to a Shield is unfair. The Shield is geared towards a different market. Its an incredible product, but its not an apples to apples comparison.

  • Unable to wake box from sleep

    Quote from 175n

    Thanks everyone for the replies.

    Formuler engineers will be looking into this issue.
    Hope to have it patched soon.

    @175n...if it helps, in my experience, it was more common for it to happen if the box timed out and put itself to sleep than if I turned the box off/sent it to standby by hitting the power button. Its not an issue now that I have my box set to Power Off instead of Standby, but of course you lose your EPG info and the box has to start up and reconnect to the portal from that setting. The Standby setting was nice for holding EPG and faster startup.

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    Quote from shaunm89

    since this basically affects all devices using DOL will this fix the EPG issues on the Dreamlink Dlite as well? im interested in testing it on that if i can its really bad at the moment, makes the device useless

    I am not an employee of Formuler or Dreamlink, so take this for what it is, but this is a software update. It will be an update to the MyTVOnline app and, I would assume, the DOL2 app around the same time. Any device using these apps would be updated to include the new features I would imagine.

    I am also excited as I also have an older T1 that I hope will receive this update when it hits.

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    I can’t speak to the m3u thing as we haven’t really been given any info on it. As to your EPG question, we currently have no control over the pulling of info, but my experience is that it loads the current category you are using first, and in order. For me I open to my Favourites and its seto to about 250ish channels depending on the provider. It loads first and quickly, usually in 2 or 3 minutes.

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    Quote from antonispgs

    I would love that, it would make smoothstreams and other providers that don't have stalker support run great on the formuler!

    Its funny, when Sam first mentioned the m3u possibility I hadn't really thought of that as a reason for it, but it popped into my head while reading the thread about Gears on reddit. It would certainly add some intrigue to see how it works with the MOL program. Not to mention it would open up the possibility to have more than one device (even if on ly one at a time) with the majority of providers that don't give you an m3u playlist if you have a MAC registered.

  • What to do about Formuler Z7+ Mac-Address being Blocked/Hostage by IPTV Provider

    As danny121pt said, you have nothing to worry about with your MAC address.

    The stories I'm sure you have read about locked MAC addresses relate only to trying to switch from one reseller to another with the same service. The reseller must first release your MAC from his panel before another reseller of the SAME SERVICE can add it to his panel. If you want to change services, this is not an issue at all. Its very rare that any reseller would hold your MAC hostage anyways as its bad for business if you complain.

    As for recommending a service for you, pretty much every service will change channels very fast with your Formuler box. That's not really an issue. I find recommending a service to be a difficult thing because everyone has different preferences, so I always say just try as many services as you can until you find one you really like. Many services will offer free trials. You can have as many as 5 active at one time with this box, so fill up your portals list with trials and go from there!

    Have fun!!

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    @piperider

    I have never had an issue with the time being off on my box with any provider I have used. EPG is always lined up perfectly. Make sure you have your timezone [lexicon]settings[/lexicon] correct and then touch base with your service provider and see if its something from their end.

    Perhaps take a trial with a couple of other services and see if you have the same issue with those services. If so, that could indicate that it is something to do with the box. If not, then its likely a service issue.

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    Thanks for that Sam. Can i ask what the benefit of having m3u would be in MOL? The only one I could think of is the ability to not lock the sub to the box. By using m3u instead of the MAC address it would free you toni stall the subscription on multiple boxes as long as you only had one running at a time or if your provider allows multiple connections.

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    Just to give everyone a little update...the beta program is very promising! EPG loads in the background on starting up the MTVOL app and while the official time estimates for full population are 10-15 minutes, the actual loading times seem to be 3-4 minutes for most portals.

    There are still some bugs to work out with caching the EPG when exiting the portal, but its a very exciting step for anyone who has been upset with this long standing issue.

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    I honestly don't know if its anything to do with xtreamcodes vs stalker. It seemed to make sense based on my testing, but its not something I would stake my reputation on or anything.

    As for why the Formuler boxes can't do what the MAG boxes do? I have no idea. They are connecting to the server the same way, so it would make sense that they could access the information in the same way. The Buzz boxes, I thought, had a similar, though less pronounced, EPG issue. It loads page by page like the Formuler but each page loads much faster, right?

    The ideal is to have some sort of full EPG download happen on startup, even if it takes a couple of minutes while it loads. I don't know if that's feasible or not. Logically it makes sense but I am not a developer so I have no idea how realistic it is on this type of portal access.

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    Quote from Jrizzill

    @manosteel9423 stating that the issue is non-existent on certain subs is a little misleading and implies that the issue lies with the sub and not the box. This is simply not the case -- please show me one sub where the EPG loads instantly. We all know that our current subs load instant on other IPTV apps, so that should be the bar we are setting for MyTVOnline. Appreciate the workaround, but that solution is not going to work for the majority of users.

    There is only one service that I have ever used that had a virtually instant loading EPG with any of these boxes. Like I said, I'm not certain of the rules for these forums about naming services but this service is very popular in the US and Canada and is one of the original stalker based services. I last used them last summer with my old Dreamlink T1, so I can't speak to how they are now, but assuming nothing has changed on their end, EPG was there immediately with them. Unfortunately, picture quality was lacking so I never went back to them.

    Other true stalker based services that I have tried also tend to load better than xtreamcodes services. In many cases, like I have said before, the stalker based services will load the entire EPG with the exception of the current time slot. What I mean by this is when you open the EPG, you can see the next program scheduled to play, but have to wait for the current show to populate.

    I don't understand why there are these differences between the services and how they work. I am just passing along the information that I have gathered in my extensive testing of dozens of services over the past 12 months or so with one of these boxes.

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    Quote from Laz

    For people who suggest to spend 15-20 mins in the morning to load the app... REALLY??? Give your head a shake, that’s utterly ridiculous (posts like that make me think you are associated with formuler and biased, so absurd) I would be ok with turning the app on in the morning and letting it load the EPG for 15 mins (still slow and ridiculous) but it’s better then scrolling through each screen on my favourites and waiting 15-30 seconds for 5 channels to load. Btw I have 150 MBs speed (this is not slow due to my internet connection).

    I am not affiliated with Formuler at all. Just a user like yourself. I had a Dreamlink T1 before I bought this box. It had the same issue of course as its built by the same developers.

    I agree that the problem is annoying. I'm not trying to minimize the issue, just offering a possible workaround for those who like the UI, like the ease of use, like how simple it is for their less tech friendly wives and kids but can't get around the EPG. My wife is home all day, watching this box. She could NEVER run kodi or Perfect Player or Prog TV. If those were my only options for IPTV, I would still have a legit sub!

    She hates the slow loading EPG as well. She complained about it all the time. So, I started loading it fully every morning while having my coffee. I have timed the process. While some providers are faster than others...and as I said, at least one is instant...it can take upwards of 30 seconds to load a single page of content. That's a ridiculous amount of time for 5 channels! I agree with all of you. I would love to see it fixed.

    For me, though, this is the best available box for my family, so I need to find a way to make it work for us while waiting for a solution that may or may not ever come. I've explained how I do it and it works for me.

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    Quote from stevetbx

    So Ok just say the EPG can't preload on boot, they just could never script that to happen... Why then can't it populate globally across all groups all at the same time? even if it took 5 minutes to complete? Why will it only populate page by page 4 or 5 channels at a time? that makes no sense. It takes 15 seconds at least per 5 channels and I have 100MBPs download speed! Why is it only pulling data for visible channels on the grid and not just pulling data for the whole list (s) in the background? That is possibly the one thing I can not figure out.

    It would be good for a Formuler DEV/ engineer to come on here and respond directly so poos SAM isn't taking the flack - at least some one technically skilled could publish reasons for the problem and we could all then make a decision... wait for the bug to be repaired, live with it or flog our boxes on and get a decent Mag 256 or high end android unit.

    For the bolded above...what is interesting is that it does with some providers. Like I said, I know of at least one provider where the EPG does just that. It fully populates across the entire channel list immediately. I have seen with other services where it will populate either the entire channel list or a large majority of the channel list entirely with the exception of what is in the current time slot...meaning that if its 5 pm when I load the portal, everything from 6pm on is loaded immediately but I have to manually populate the data for the 5-6 time slot.

    I'm no programmer. I'm not a computer technician or engineer. I don't understand all the intricacies of writing these scripts and from what I can tell, none of you people do either. So why is it so hard to believe that they are working on it but failing to make it work across all providers. I understand that ProgTV and Perfect Player and even kodi's Simple Client can download the entire guide on startup in a matter of a couple of minutes at most, but those programs are all using an m3u file for the EPG. MTVOL isn't. Its a different form of connecting to the portal. The ONLY stalker device that I know of that loads EPG right away is the MAG and they wrote the damned stalker programming for crying out loud. I'm sure they aren't exactly going to share how they are doing it with the Formuler team.

    I have no problem with any of you. You have the right to ask the question. You have the right to return or sell your boxes if you aren't happy. All I am saying is that I have been using one of these boxes for a year now and I'm pretty happy with it. To me, its far better than any android program, kodi addon, or other STB that I have found and I have tried almost all of them I think. I would love for them to find a solution to this problem, but it didn't keep me from buying this box and it won't keep me from recommending to others...with the caveat that they will have to do some work to load the guide every day.

    For all your sakes, I hope that somebody from the Formuler team gives you an answer to your question. I hope they come on here and say, one way or the other, whether its a problem they think they can eventually fix. I agree that the peace of mind of knowing one way or the other would be nice.

  • Will the EPG issue ever be addressed?

    As I user, I agree with all of you that I would LOVE for this issue to get sorted out.

    However, for all those saying things like "It can't be that difficult"...and "Just modify it to do this or do that"...do you REALLY think that they wouldn't do it if it were that easy?

    Obviously, this is a more complicated issue than you believe it to be. I look at similar boxes from other manufacturers and I see a similar issue with those, so its not unique to MTVOL.

    I have tested dozens of providers and while the issue is consistent with most...it is especially vexing with xtreamcodes based services. Unfortunately, most providers fall into that category anymore. The true stalker based platforms don't have the same issues, or it is greatly reduced. Without naming names...because I don't know the board rules for naming IPTV providers...I have tested at least one stalker server that loads instantly in MTVOL and another that loads entirely with the exception of the current timeslot's program.

    For those of you that care to know, there are ways to minimize the impact of this particular issue. Personally, I have made a Favourites list for both of my current providers of all channels I know I could care to watch. Its roughly 250-300 channels depending on the provider. Every morning, I spend about 15-20 minutes loading the EPG for my primary provider. Once loaded, its good for the day, never needing to be reloaded.

    WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SHUT THE BOX OFF??? You might ask?

    I'll tell you what happens...my EPG is cached and is still there when I turn it back on because I have set my box to power off to Standby instead of powering off.

    Honestly, I can live with the, at worst, 20 minutes I spend loading the EPG every morning while enjoying my first coffee of the day because the rest of the IPTV experience with this box is the best I have had with any program available for this hobby.

  • Minor issue

    I have my box set to power off to Standby so that it holds the EPG info when powered off. However, sometimes...and its pretty rare...when I turn the box back on, the video is stuck on a single image and won't change. Changing the channel, changing servers and even exiting the MYTVOnline app and going back in doesn't remove this single image from the screen. The only thing that will correct it is unplugging the box and resetting that way.

    Anyone else have a similar issue?