Posts by Speicher22

I'm MORE than happy to test it out as well!

@SAM - Thank you for the official response and ballpark timeline to properly set some expectations for your high-paying customers. Truly. While I wish it was a shorter timeline and a more definitive 'yes it will be fixed in this way' type of response, I'm just happy to get any kind of information at all and frankly I was not expecting some. Thank you.

It would be nice to know the typical timeline between test phase and official release, however.

ProgTV has a beta version that uses Xtreme Code now rather than m3u. Takes a little bit longer to load than the m3u epg does, but once it does you have like 7 days worth of epg across all channels (and it allows archived content playback). I do not know the intracacies of stalker/xtreme/m3u, but I am a software programmer and I can tell you -- the kind of on-demand pull of the epg data on a channel by channel basis that MyTVOL does is a very flawed UI/UX design for any piece of software. You never want your end user watching a "spinning wheel" if it can be avoided -- and other programs prove that it can. Even the BuzzTV XPL3000 loads incrementally faster. I'm testing that as well and reported an issue --- for which they promptly replied within 48hrs and told me when that they plan to push an update next week that should fix my problem. Note that they didn't promise it would, but at least I got a response and estimate.

The fact that this is a very visible (literally) issue and one that is highly complained about, should have Formuler all over it. It should be their #1 priority fix. But their lack of response seems to indicate that this issue, and in turn all of the users that it negatively affects, is not important enough to them to even give us a formal response with some kind of idea of timeline or even whether a fix will be made. In the software world, fixes are prioritized and planned for certain releases based on various factors. Yes -- development groups are always reluctant to share that information with customers because unforeseen things can sometimes throw a wrench into the mix and cause delays. But in this case, I think we all understand that and just want some kind of ballpark estimate so we can choose what to do ourselves.

@manosteel - i do understand where you're coming from and appreciate your stance.

All due respect, but I don’t have 20 minutes in my morning routine to scroll through an EPG favorites list one by one to load the guide for the next 24 hours. I wish I did and respect the fact that it works for you.

But If the issue is truly that difficult, why can programs like ProgTV, Perfect Player, And GSE (just to name a few) all do it? And they barely charge anything, especially not the cost of a premium box.

What I think bothers me the most is the lack of communication regarding the issue and apparent nonchalant mentality from Formuler.

I use ProgTV on other android boxes in my home and it’s absolutely great. Not quite as wife-friendly as the z7+ and doesn’t have all the bells and whistles yet but it’s lightning quick. I emailed them about something the other day and got a response that night and within a week my suggestion was added to the latest beta. At this rate, ProgTV may end up adding everything MyTvOL has before Formuler fixes the EPG.

@SAM -- I don't think anything I said was out of context. I asked for very rough ballpark guesses, assuming that you are in contact with the engineers (do you not work with them?), and you did not give me an answer. I would think 6 months would be enough to fix ANY issue, especially one this visible. I'm sorry for calling you out here, but your response over PM changes nothing and there clearly are a bunch of other people looking for an answer. You can have your hissy-fit if you want though, but watch the overwhelming response here about this particular issue. Maybe relay that to your engineers and get them on the case a bit faster?

Like others have said, I really don't get it. Every other app I have used pulls in the EPG data all at once and caches it. Is it really that hard of a change to make? In what world does it make sense to load EPG one row at a time on-demand. I'm a software engineer. This is simply nuts.

My guess is that we will get the standard "it is our top priority and we are working on it" reply with no clear answer as to why it is the way it is or any resolution as to when it might be fixed. I PM'd the admins asking for simple ballpark guesses and assured them that it didn't need to be spot on, and they weren't even able to give me that. I think all z7+ owners, and those reading this considering buying one, should assume at this point that no quick fix is coming until someone from Formuler gives some kind of response. They refused to even guarantee me that it would be fixed in the next 6 months.

For those thinking about buying the z7+ --- There is no perfect IPTV box out there (there would be if Formuler fixed the EPG issues here). If a speedy EPG is important to you, you probably should look elsewhere.