Posts by Steve78383

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Feature	Formuler Z12 Ultra	Formuler Z11 Pro	Formuler Z11 Pro Max
CPU	Realtek RTD1319C (Quad-Core)	Realtek RTD1319C (Quad-Core)	Realtek RTD1319C (Quad-Core)
GPU	Mali-G57 MC1	Mali-G57 MC1	Mali-G57 MC1
RAM	4 GB DDR4	2 GB DDR4	4 GB DDR4
Internal Storage	128 GB eMMC	16 GB eMMC	32 GB eMMC
Operating System	Android 12	Android 11	Android 11
Wi-Fi	Wi-Fi 6E (Tri-Band)	Dual-Band 802.11ac (Wi-Fi 5)	Wi-Fi 6 (AX, 2×2)
Ethernet	Gigabit LAN	Gigabit LAN	Gigabit LAN
Bluetooth	Bluetooth 5.2	Bluetooth 5.0	Bluetooth 5.0
HDR & Audio	Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos, HDR10+	HDR10+, HLG, AV1	HDR10+, AV1
Video Decode	4K @ 60fps, AV1, HEVC, H.264, etc.	4K @ 60fps, AV1, HEVC, H.264, etc.	4K @ 60fps, AV1, HEVC, H.264, etc.
Ports	1× USB 3.0, 1× USB 2.0, HDMI, Micro-SD, LAN, SPDIF	1× USB 3.0, 1× USB 2.0, HDMI, Micro-SD, LAN	Same as Z11 Pro
Remote Control	Backlit BT Remote (BT3)	Basic BT Remote (BT1 optional)	BT1 Edition (optional)
Power Use	Max 12 W, Standby ~0.5 W	Max 12 W, Standby ~0.5 W	Similar
Dimensions	135 × 100 × 24 mm	105 × 105 × 21 mm	105 × 105 × 21 mm

The two big disappointments with this box are that Formuler have not future proofed it in respect to Wi-Fi and Bluetooth technologies. They have adpoted Wi-Fi 6E why? Wi-Fi 7 is the latest available technology and blows Wi-Fi 6E not just out of the water but into the stratosphere when it comes to AV streaming and gaming, big mistake Formuler.

Wi‑Fi 6E vs Wi‑Fi 7
Release
• Wi‑Fi 6E: 2021
• Wi‑Fi 7: 2024–2025
Frequency Bands
• Wi‑Fi 6E: 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz, 6 GHz
• Wi‑Fi 7: 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz, 6 GHz
Max Channel Width
• Wi‑Fi 6E: 160 MHz
• Wi‑Fi 7: 320 MHz (double)
Peak Speed
• Wi‑Fi 6E: ~9.6 Gbps
• Wi‑Fi 7: ~46 Gbps
Latency
• Wi‑Fi 6E: Low
• Wi‑Fi 7: Ultra‑low (sub‑millisecond possible)
Key Technologies
• Wi‑Fi 6E: Extended spectrum (6 GHz), OFDMA, MU‑MIMO
• Wi‑Fi 7: Multi‑Link Operation (MLO), 4K QAM, advanced scheduling
Use Cases
• Wi‑Fi 6E: Gaming, streaming, VR
• Wi‑Fi 7: 8K streaming, AR/VR, cloud computing, smart homes

🔑 Key Differences
• Speed & Bandwidth: Wi-Fi 7 offers up to 5× faster speeds than Wi-Fi 6E thanks to wider channels and higher modulation.
• Efficiency: Wi-Fi 7’s Multi-Link Operation (MLO) lets devices use multiple bands simultaneously, improving reliability and reducing congestion.

Then theres the Bluetooth, why oh why have Formuler used the dated 5.2 version when version 6.1 is available and far superior.

Bluetooth 5.2 vs Bluetooth 6.1
Release
• Bluetooth 5.2: 2020
• Bluetooth 6.1: 2025
Core Audio Technology
• Bluetooth 5.2: Introduced LE Audio with LC3 codec
• Bluetooth 6.1: Refined LE Audio, improved multi‑stream handling
Latency
• Bluetooth 5.2: Reduced compared to earlier versions, but still noticeable in gaming/video
• Bluetooth 6.1: Ultra‑low latency, optimized for AV sync
Multi‑Stream Audio
• Bluetooth 5.2: First version to allow multiple synchronized streams
• Bluetooth 6.1: Enhanced multi‑stream with better stability and device coordination
Efficiency
• Bluetooth 5.2: Improved power usage over 5.1
• Bluetooth 6.1: Further optimized for battery life + performance balance
Range & Reliability
• Bluetooth 5.2: Stable connections, good for IoT and audio
• Bluetooth 6.1: Improved interference management, more robust in crowded environments
New Features
• Bluetooth 5.2: LC3 codec, multi‑stream audio, Isochronous Channels
• Bluetooth 6.1: Bluetooth Channel Sounding (precise device distance/location), scalability for dense device networks

Other issues I notice although not too detremental but still disappointing are; no USB-C Gen 3.2 ports, no 8K video support, 128GB storage - why? I can use a removable thumbdrive and finally ...Gigabyte LAN this really should have been at least 10GB LAN capability to match the router market and ISP package developments thus future proofing the box.

It appears that Formuler have just rebranded the Z11 with some simple upgrades applied and a new remote controller (Wow). Big opportunity missed to bring to the market an outstanding product that would have been in high demand but unfortunately this Z12 Ultra doesn't do anything better than my Homatics Box R. Ah well I'll have to wait and see what the Z13 brings, whenever that might be.

The problem is that all media boxes are classed as restricted by customs and require a government license. Already tried with Amazon and it got seized by customs luckily got full refund from Amazon. But as a matter of interest do you have a link for purchase from S Korea.

Ok tried setting AFR to both on and off and still have same problem in either situation, I am begining to think it maybe my Z8 hardware thats the problem. I would upgrade to Z11 Pro but not available in Thailand.

ok found it and AFR is set to off, should this be on or off?

where do I find the MOL2 menu? Although I don't think it is anything to do with MOL2 as it also happens when I play media from USB port of Z8

My Formuler Z8 has recently started having an intermittent loss of audio and screen going dark for approximately 1 second then returning to normal. This is happening usually every 15 to 20 minutes both when streaming and watching programmes via USB memory stick. I have eliminated the TV and the HDMI cable as the problem so must be the box, any ideas on how to resolve?