Official Z12 Ultra Questions and Discussion thread.

Does it have proper apps for Netflix, BBC etc, and not stuck on mobile versions that either do not work, or are rubbish to navigate?

Does Android 12 resolve this?

Quote from allen

Does it have proper apps for Netflix, BBC etc, and not stuck on mobile versions that either do not work, or are rubbish to navigate?

Does Android 12 resolve this?

No, but maby i can arrange the bbc player. But that comes later when i got time.

thanks for clarification buddy

I posted a thread on the forum and it got deleted, only because I was talking about my disappointment of the poor hardware upgrade of the z12 ultra. Says enough about the forum policy. You cannot say you’re not happy with a product ?

Quote from Yatayil

I posted a thread on the forum and it got deleted, only because I was talking about my disappointment of the poor hardware upgrade of the z12 ultra. Says enough about the forum policy. You cannot say you’re not happy with a product ?

You should have posted in the Official thread

Quote from Lucky133

No, but maby i can arrange the bbc player. But that comes later when i got time.

Hey lucky let me know when you get round to this if we could get version of bbc iPlayer that shows in uhd would be incredible mate

Some questions: Regarding the new remote - can you set so the main Volume Up/Down on the upside of the remote adjust the volume of the tv or will those always be for the box and the new side button for tv?

Also theoretically - could you use the old Bluetooth remote, GTV-BT1, with the new Z12? If for whatever reason a user prefers that remote over the new one...

Quote from Yatayil

Disappointing to be honest. Nothing that could make a Z11 Pro max (or even Z10 pro max) user buy an expensive Z12 Ultra that doesn't have any huge new feature or a better chipset.

yes only a good box for new users... not that have a z11promax allready.. disappointed. atleast make it faster from 4 to 5 or 6gig its the same chip. same app, same homescreen. same ram4gig :P... strange upgrade

Quote from haguewest

yes only a good box for new users... not that have a z11promax allready.. disappointed. atleast make it faster from 4 to 5 or 6gig its the same chip. same app, same homescreen. same ram4gig :P... strange upgrade

Marketing "ultra"

Did not see an answer if you can pair the new remote to the Z11 Pro Max?

Quote from oldsmobile

Did not see an answer if you can pair the new remote to the Z11 Pro Max?

I think that it can be yes.

Its bluetooth and youn can choose tour tv mark.

But the device is not yet on the market so we cant test it. We have to wait.

Ok thanks

Quote from oldsmobile

Did not see an answer if you can pair the new remote to the Z11 Pro Max?

Quote from oldsmobile

Did not see an answer if you can pair the new remote to the Z11 Pro Max?

Or even a z10 or GTV?

Yes, the good news is that a new console is already on the way.

But I'm afraid to bet that the bugs will be exactly the same as in the younger models.

12 android new remote and weather widget for 200$, I don't see the point in buying it yet. Until the problems with the younger models are fixed, it's like swapping one awl for another.

richi207 A very useful comparison table. Thank you.

Does the remote have a mouse button?

Quote from henkie

Or even a z10 or GTV?

It’s Bluetooth so I expect you’ll be able to pair with the devices mentioned.

Just put the remote in paring mode and head to Bluetooth settings

Quote from hawkeye

Does the remote have a mouse button?

Likely it will function similar to the other Bluetooth remotes in that you assign a key to enable mouse by using the Formuler remote app

Quote from Yatayil

Absolutely nothing that's worth the price of the Z12 Ultra, especially if you already own a Z10/Z11

Subjective.

Some may see things differently

Quote from adrilang

Subjective.

Some may see things differently

It's literally a fact, can't you see the hardware is the same ?

Are there plans to release any other upgrades or a 13 in the near future? Thanks

I’ve already got a z11 pro max, and I’ve just ordered my z12 ultra yesterday for delivery next week.

Quote from F_Peter

You can set up a hotkey for the mouse cursor via Formuler Remote app

So no physical button like on the z11 pro max remote?

I can't understand how they havent implemented a new chipset.

its blown my brain. But...... the z11 pro max was a good box, unfortunately I think formular have missed a trick beings as 🍎 are releasing their new box very soon

Will the blocking of sideloading apps be a problem for this box? My understanding is only certified andriod/Google boxes are going to be hit

Quote from hawkeye

I can't understand how they havent implemented a new chipset.

its blown my brain. But...... the z11 pro max was a good box, unfortunately I think formular have missed a trick beings as 🍎 are releasing their new box very soon

To be honest, I think that this box is not « ultra », and it is juste what a Z11 pro max always should have been when it was released.

It is way too much expensive for what it is.

Quote from hawkeye

Will the blocking of sideloading apps be a problem for this box? My understanding is only certified andriod/Google boxes are going to be hit

Should be fine with this, no blocking expected especially as it’s AOSP build

Quote from hawkeye

I can't understand how they havent implemented a new chipset.

its blown my brain. But...... the z11 pro max was a good box, unfortunately I think formular have missed a trick beings as 🍎 are releasing their new box very soon

The new box by said company has no bearing on the Formuler device especially as MTOL is the preferred client and is only available on Formuler

Quote from SAM

So what? Even if the chipset isn't what you were hoping for, this version still offers more, otherwise would Dolby Vision not work. Everything new is simply ignored here!

Nobody is forcing you to buy the box, but you're complaining here as if you have to. If it's not for you, then don't bother, but don't already badmouth the box when you haven't even seen it.

we are some die hard fans :p that are just a little disappointed. nothing more. atleast upgrade the cpu or gpu or some extra ram. 99% here have the z11promax. its a good buy for new buyers not for us. its a z11promax v2. we still need a ultra :p hopefully a z12promax soon.....

Quote from haguewest

we are some die hard fans :p that are just a little disappointed. nothing more. atleast upgrade the cpu or gpu or some extra ram. 99% here have the z11promax. its a good buy for new buyers not for us. its a z11promax v2. we still need a ultra :p hopefully a z12promax soon.....

Since the same chipset /memory now needs to do more processing (dolby) it raises the question what the performance will be like. I have read SAM’s comment that the Z12 “ULTRA” uses a later newer release of the same chipset which he suggests is more performant. BUT if that is so, why doesn’t Formuler publish the benchmark comparison that proves such a claim?
Poor marketing if you ask me. If you want to sell, address the hesitations and objections your customers have by proving them wrong instead of airing hollow empty phrases.
Just my thoughts, nothing personal.

So, is it certain that this chipset supports Dolby Vision? I am a bit confused...

Quote from mrneilypops

So, is it certain that this chipset supports Dolby Vision? I am a bit confused...

Yes, confirmed multiple times.

Quote from MCIF

Yes, confirmed multiple times.

Thank you.

Quote from mrneilypops

So, is it certain that this chipset supports Dolby Vision? I am a bit confused...

SAM said its a revision of that chip. So board is better now. Supported with dolby atmos and Dolby Vision, wifi 6 and bluetooth 5.2

Since the Z11 Pro and Z11 Pro Max weren't released at the same time, I think (hope) the Z12 Ultra will also get a sort of Max version. I think I'll wait a little while before buying this one. We'll see what happens