Hi all,
Does anyone have any way to speed up the search function? When I search for programmes it takes a good 30seconds of spinning wheel before everything shows up. I think it’s searching every channel from my provider although I have 90% of channels hidden and only a few channel groups selected. Is there any way to speed it up, maybe just have it search only the selected channel groups?
Thank you.
Display MoreUnable to reproduce the issue.
Try the following:
Unplug the power from your Formuler.
Unplug the HDMI cable from your Formuler.
Wait 10 seconds and plug in the HDMI cable.
After that, plug in the power cable and test the CEC again.
Thanks for your help but this has not worked. I’ve even tried a factory reset but that hasn’t helped either.
Check HDMI CEC Settings, set and then reboot both, box and TV.
Thanks for helping but I have tried this to no avail. I’ve even tried a factory reset with no luck.
For some reason when I press the power button to put the z11 to sleep, the tv no longer powers off. CEC is enabled on Samsung TV and in Formuler settings. Powering on the Z11 does not start up the tv either. Any advise? Using the left hand TV/SMB button does power off the TV when pressed.
@ Boi, Mobel and Cannont5, please consider to do factory reset and set fresh. Thank you.
Thanks for the up date.
Finally got around to trying this this morning. No luck. It still crashes after opening first time in a while (think it’s after auto update).
Formuler is not official certified by google except of Gtv.
I cannot it to google home app either.
Frustratingly it was working fine before I had to do a factory reset. So I know it works, just not sure why I can’t get it to now!
As the title suggests. I can’t find my z11 pro max on the google tv app after pressing ‘connect tv’. Any suggestions? Both phone and formuler are on the same network.
MyTV app on z11 crashes after watching live for 5-10 seconds.
Did so even before updating to current version. But not before that.
Mine does the same first time I start it up from being in standby for a while. MOL3 will boot, I may be able to go to change a channel (it sometimes won’t even recognise remote input) and then after 10 seconds it’ll crash to Home Screen. When I reopen mol3 it is then fine. 🤷🏻♂️ Not a deal breaker but frustrating. I don’t know if it has anything to do with the auto update in the early hours of the morning as obviously it usually the first boot after this when it happens.
Please add web setup /web login to setup Playlist fast and easy on your mobile phone. I have seen it on other boxes and it's just wonderful to use
This is a good idea. Further optimisation would be nice too. Not sure how possible it is because of whether its provider end of GU end but things like editing channel names, hiding unused provider groups/categories, etc.
Being honest I've been looking at tivimate on the shield, but just prefer the remote functions of the formuler.
Irritating that TM doesn’t support timeshift (pause, RW, FF of live TV) otherwise it would be flawless.
I too am looking for an answer on this. I want to set favourite channels on my harmony remote but can’t do it with multiple channels numbered ‘1’ for example. I need the channel numbers to continue through groups as per the provider rather than restart at 1 for each group. SAM Can you advise at all? Is it possible with MOL3 as it appears to be with MOL2?
As the title suggests, I don’t have the bt1 remote and would love to be able to use voice search in MOL3. Would this be possible with a USB microphone?
There is no need to clear,
but you could is u want.
It messes with my (and I presume other’s) OCD to see the little red number, I have to clear it. And it’s a job I’d rather not have to do!
Ok, please bear with me on this. I use a Harmony Elite to control all of my devices as I have a few and I hate using multiple remotes. Everything works flawlessly except obviously voice search as the elite does not have that capability. So I’m looking for a way to search on MOL3.
Now, I can use Google TV on my iPhone and press the mic button on the keyboard (not the Google assistant button) to type in using my voice but it’s pointless having to get the phone out, open the app etc each time.
So I’ve been looking at possible getting a Google Nest Mini or similar to use as a mic in the room. I’ve done some research which led to me downloading the Google Home app and connecting my Harmony devices. I can control them from Google Home App using my voice, and I would assume this would be the same as if I had the Google Nest installed. If I say a command through the app, “Turn on TV” for example it works fine. If I ask it to search something it opens the Google Assistant on the Z11, which is fine when I’m on the Home Screen for example, but even if I have MOL3 open, even if I’m on the search screen, even if I have clicked the mic button on MOL3 search, it still just searches using the assistant and doesn’t make any input to the MOL3 search.
What I want is to be able to press the search button on my Harmony Elite when in MOL3 (which opens the search dialog box), go up above the keyboard and press the microphone button and for that to then enable the Google Nest (or similar Google device in the room) so it inputs what I say into the search bar in MOL3.
Does anyone know if this is possible? I see on the GTV-B1 remote there is a google Assist button. I am assuming however that seeing as MOL3 has the microphone button that the Mic on this remote works with the MOL3 search rather than enabling Google Assistant each time? So I’m thinking it must be doable?! I don’t want to go spending money on Google devices and not be able to get it work.
Many thanks for any of you that have read this far and try to help!
Can confirm after a while now of not using split-tunnelling the network error has not returned. It appears that for some reason MOL3 doesn’t work with a VPN with split-tunnelling enabled. For now anyway.
hey SAM how are you?
Do you know if the timeshift was fixed?
On mol2 we could activate timeshift and just pause the channel when we wanted... but on mol3 theres no way to pause when ths specific channel is being recorded
New official update released and I can confirm you can pause a live channel that is currently being recorded. 👍🏼
Basically, I use a Harmony Elite remote for all my devices including the Formuler and I’m looking to see if I can work the voice search.
The microphone icon is there on the keyboard and when clicked it it says ‘speak now’ but obviously with no microphone, it doesn’t work. Long shot and doubtful I reckon, but is there a usb microphone or something that could be purchased to get it to work? Or anyone know of any other workarounds?
The ability to record more than 1 channel at one given time.
Ok, I think (hope) I’m making progress with this. I found this thread: RE: Z11 Pro Max Portal connection issue with NordVPN
And think it’s a similar issue, something to do with ISP blocking and MOL3 not working correctly with split tunnelling, it seems to disable the VPN for MOL3. It would make sense why surfshark worked for a while as I set it up during premier league broadcasts and hadn’t yet sorted split tunnelling. Then I set up split tunnelling and last night it came up with the error again. Also, when I tried ExpressVPN that’s worked too, which makes sense as no split tunnelling had yet been set up.
It all adds up so I’m praying this is actually it. I have now gone back to NORD and I am not currently using any sort of split tunnelling. I will see how it fairs tomorrow when football is on.
This needs to be passed on to Devs though as it’s a clear issue for the z11 and many won’t be aware of it.
Display MoreOk, now we know the VPN is the issue, because with Express and Surfshark VPN it works fine, right?
I have never issues with Nord VPN, so please try this way.
1. Go to Nord VPN homepage and download latest apk. Delete old Nord VPN app on the box and sideload the new downloaded apk over USB Stick. Insert your VPN Data and chose as protocol in Nord VPN Nordlynx ( you can later, if you see any issues change also to OpenVPN(UDP) or OpenVPN (TCP) protocol to see if it works better.
Chose some server and activate VPN Nord.
2. Next, close the Tivimate process in background (the Tivimate connection with provider should be not active otherwise you are trying to use two connections at same time!), before you start MOL3.
Double tap on home menu button and close all other apps in background except Nord VPN.
3. Start MOL3 and check again.
Unfortunately we’re back to square one SAM .
All has been fine since Saturday until last night when I sat down to watch the football. It happened again, this time when using surfshark. I changed to Nord but it didn’t change.
The only other pattern I can see now is it seems to happen when premier league football is about to be broadcast. Could it be something to do with my ISP? That still wouldn’t explain how I can get it to work on Tivimate though.
Try to use power off method instead of standby when you set schedule recording.
Purely out of interest as obviously you know what you’re talking about, but how would that help? I assumed power off would mean it wouldn’t be able to record?
I think I’ve solved it hopefully anyway. Think it was something to do with CEC. I’m out now so will test properly when I’m back, if not I’ll try this.
Same experience here.
Did you get a message when you go to recordings "video not available;try again later",I too had notifications of recording start and recording ended,but recordings were empty.
Yes. Tried again just now. Come back to the same. The alarm as soon as I turned on the tv. It was in recordings but hadn’t recorded a second and doesn’t play. Clearly the issue is it not starting when in sleep. It doesn’t shut down as when I turn the tv on it is straight to the screensaver. I think I’ll see about turning the screensaver off.
I should have had 2 scheduled recordings completed when I woke up this morning. When I turned on the tv, it showed the z11 Home Screen and the ‘run alarm’ box came up. I pressed ‘run alarm’ and the small notification came up saying recording started. A second ‘run alarm’ box came up and I did the same. Then I had notifications of recording ended. Both recordings had started earlier in the day, but it’s like it didn’t attempt it until I turned the tv on. The power setting is set to standby. When I record with the tv on, all is fine, both with an immediate and scheduled recording.
Any ideas?
Tried surfshark VPN. Currently no issues with them either on MOL3 or TiviMate. Very odd!!!
Looks like I’ll need to pay for a third (hopefully last) VPN service.
Further info for Devs. Please pass on admin. SAM
Currently have the connection issue on MOL3 connected via NordVPN. Switch to Tivimate on the Formuler, same NordVPN, it works. Whatever I try with Nord, change location, protocol, obfuscated, etc, etc, makes no difference. It works with TiviMate but not MOL3.
So you’d assume it’s MOL3. However, if I connect to ExpressVPN, it works in both MOL3 and TiviMate. So it’s something to do with both MOL3 and Nord?
The problem I have is my provider says I shouldn’t use ExpressVPN as it sends them multiple messages or something and get’s automatically blocked. But NORD throws this error.
Not sure exactly where to go with this next.
After just giving up on MOL3 for now and using Tivimate, I have been keeping an eye occasionally on MOL3 to see if it’s working and it seems to have a pattern. It appears to work most/all day and then just instantly switches off around 6pm UK and then back on around 10pm. It’s probably just total coincidence and has no relevance but I thought I would mention it. Admin, are devs aware of issues around ‘ A Network Error has Occured’? As I’d love for this to get sorted. For now I’ll just wait it out with TM.
Unbelievable. Exact same problem with guide epg being 24hrs 🤦♂️ no change & STILL no Record & remind function back in single epg which i think virtually every single person was asking back! If that wasn’t taken off then we wouldn’t have this 24hr guide epg problem because we still could use the 7 day single epg guide to set timer/future recordings. So yet still another long wait until maybe these (2) big issues get a fix. If ever.
It’s not a fix exactly but have you considered using the likes of IPTVEditor? I use it as I’m quite OCD and need my channels hoe I want them but they also have far better epg than providers tend to have (7-10 days for like all channels). Anyway, to my point, I have no issues when adding my portal from IPTVEDITOR. I have a full week of EPG as show in the image.
So why sell formuler? LOL it's not like formuler devs are not aware of this network errors and will probably solve this sooner than later. Remember that this errors might solve themselves without doing anything as soon as the european football season ends... Then we will see if it was attacks or other stuff. Wait a few weeks... Use tivimate on formuler, it works and PQ is very good tbh...
To be fair, I’m just a little frustrated. I know IPTV is never 100% reliable but you don’t expect to spend significantly more money than a firestick on a product for it to do a lesser job. I will likely keep the z11 until the main update comes out and go from there. Otherwise I’d rather just keep using the firestick 4k Max and get some cash back.
But tivimate doesn't work on your formuler??
Tivimate is fine. It’s just MOL3.
Seen there’s a new BETA. Made no difference unfortunately. Tivimate it is then and selling the Formuler.
Photo without private photos would be awesome...for your own safety LOL
But yes, that's the error, solved for me by refreshing it manually...still after a while it returns!!! Probably your/my provider are being attacked, this blackouts are usually network attacks. Tivimate and other apps are much more optimized and probably have some instructions embedded in their code which detects this activity as attacks and reconnects quickly, usually those small black screens for less than a second we all get and sometimes only small jitter. Attenttion, i'm saying network attacks, but it can be unstable internet connection, interference, wtv...
Refreshing does nothing for me unfortunately.
Set it all up again last night. Worked flawlessly until lunch today. Watching tv and it just instantly went to this while watching. Didn’t change a stream or anything. Just failed. Switched straight over to tivimate and no issue.
Post a photo of the error message
Still haven’t this same issue. I’m fed up now. Such potential but unusable. My provider (****) has added my MAC address and provided me with a stalker link… as soon as I come back to it the next day… network error.
Hi,
I have a feature request that I’m surprised if it hasn’t been requested already. The ability to hide (not disable) playlist bouquets/groups so they’re not visible on the TV Guide. Currently when you ‘hide’ them you cannot then access any channels from within that group. So you’re disabling, not hiding.
I want to be able to add a bunch of channels from different playlist groups (bouquets) to a favourite group (e.g. Entertainment, Sports, etc) and then hide the original bouquets that the channels came from. For example, the sports channels that I watch regularly and therefore want in one ‘Sports’ group, come from multiple different playlist groups, but I want them all in the one easily accessible group and then to hide the rest to declutter. Currently I have about 20 different categories on my TV Guide, I really only need and want 3.
Hello,
Unfortunately no, if you add some channel from Group A to Favourite list and then hide the category, the added channel in the favourite list will also disappear.
You can post this as user request in request thread, maybe devs. find time to consider this. -> Features Request Z11 and MOL3 (No discussions or questions, only request thread)
Thank you. I’ll do so now.
Network error happens to me too from time to time, if i go manually refresh portal while in the channel with the given error the channel starts to stream normally. It's solved, then you must wait 5-10min and update content from the menu because if you do right away it will probably give 401 error...
Not sure it it helps but when i get network error i still have EPG, if i go right and select some stuff from 3 days ago it still works, so it's not provider related. It happens on both XC and MAC.
I'm sure this is VPN related allied with MOL3 inability to quickly adapt when provider or some channel links are being attacked or change codecs which happens several times in a day...
I already asked on features for MOL3 to have a way to always select the best possible stream instead of choosing it automatically for us...
HLS is amazing but when providers change codecs and streams too many times a day chances are we are going to have a lot of this network errors if the iptv player can't recover that quickly and change to the best stream every time. That's why we always need to go refresh portal because MOL3 still decoding the old stream...
Thank you for replying. My manual refresh doesn’t seem to do anything either I don’t think but then it’s happened so many times and I’ve tried so many different things, my mind is a little blurred now! If it happens again, I’ll try your method.
I do hope they can get this sorted as everything else is fantastic. Like I said, it’s fine on my other devices, same network, same VPN etc, only the device is different.
Did you ask IPTVeditor why it isn't working?
What is the exact error message shown on the screen?
Share a photo of the error message.
There are too many variables in your setup. Try to remove all the variables and do a clean test:
- Return your Network settings back to DHCP
- Disable IPv6 in Android Settings
- Turn OFF the VPN and leave it off.
- If you were using WiFi before, turn off WiFi in Android settings and temporarily use Ethernet.
- Don't use IPTVEditor. Connect directly to the portal in question.
Re-test using the environment above and post your results.
Thank you for your response. I haven’t asked IPTVEditor no, good shout, I will do that.
The error message says ‘network error’ and something else. If/when it happens again I’ll get a screenshot.
Most of the variables I’ve introduced are because it was failing. Last night, I have put it back to DHCP and have connected directly to the providers rather that through IPTVEditor. I am using Ethernet, I started on wifi and it failed so changed to Ethernet, it has failed since then also.
If it fails again I will disable ipv6 and VPN and go from there!
Maybe your provider doesn't allow VPN. You should ask them
They do. I spoke with them about VPNs when initially setting up. Also, same VPN and provider setup works flawlessly on Firestick/TM and has done for 12 months.
Thanks for replying.
Please set both for use with XC Api Portal (login) and do not factory reset each time your box, it`s not necessary. Disconnect the VPN and try to use some time without VPN. Report back.
Btw. The error 1010 is Cloudflare error jfyi. If under settings Private DNS activated (Box Network settings), turn off.
The 1010 error was my bad, I incorrectly put something in when messing. It can connect now through portal. All is fine currently, hopefully it will last. If not I will try without VPN but I have had no issues using this VPN and provider setup for the past 12 months. Only thing that’s changed is the z11.
Thanks for your help.
