MOL3 Channel Numbering

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    I'm new to Formuler so please bear with me but one thing I really dislike since getting my Z11 Pro is the channel numbering. Every group starts at channel 1 and goes up while on my other streaming box (BuzzTV "The Classic") it goes by the provider channel numbering. Earlier this week I had some issues with some channels so I reported it to my provider and they wanted the specific channel number which I wasn't able to provide without going to my other box. I've looked through the settings and can't find anything that allows me to switch the numbering to the provider channel numbers. Am I missing something or is it just not possible?

    I've attached an image if that helps

    Left: Formuler Z11 Pro / Right: BuzzTV The Classic

    I too am looking for an answer on this. I want to set favourite channels on my harmony remote but can’t do it with multiple channels numbered ‘1’ for example. I need the channel numbers to continue through groups as per the provider rather than restart at 1 for each group. SAM Can you advise at all? Is it possible with MOL3 as it appears to be with MOL2?

    Yes, for me everything is very different since I bought the Z11 Pro Max a week ago, upgrading my 5+ year old Z7+.

    The MyTv Online 3 has changed everything the way channels are, even they removed the "All" group as well.

    MOL1 and MOL2 can continue the channel numbers through groups but MOL3 does not.

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    This was already mentioned several times in different threads on forum.

    Since MOL3 and the resulting elimination of the All category, the arrangement of the channels in each category always starts with a 1 by default. It has something to do with the inclusion of multi-providers.

    There have been user requests for the All Category to include it again, but as far as I know, Formuler has no plans to do so.

    I assume there are reasons for this.

    Quote from SAM

    This was already mentioned several times in different threads on forum.

    Since MOL3 and the resulting elimination of the All category, the arrangement of the channels in each category always starts with a 1 by default. It has something to do with the inclusion of multi-providers.

    There have been user requests for the All Category to include it again, but as far as I know, Formuler has no plans to do so.

    I assume there are reasons for this.

    Thanks for the kind response.

    From my perspective, I think the introduction of MOL3 is regarding the improving the user experience of watching TV.

    Since upgrading the Z11 Pro Max from my Z7 Plus a week ago, the TV experience has intensively improved.

    This includes watching live TV, as well as VOD and TV series. VOD and TV have a much better view than MOL1.

    The only live TV feature to lose in MOL3 is the "All" button that you can channel surf all the channel available by your service provider.

    Instead, you will have to select a Category on you would like to watch such as Sports, News or Documentaries.

    So yes, the purpose of it is to make the app friendly towards multi-providers.

    Appreciate all the replies

    It's disappointing that this can't be changed. I'm not sure how complicated it would be but it would be nice to have a setting option where you can pick what you prefer. Either the default box channel number as it is now or the provider channel numbers. Hopefully something like this can be added in a future firmware upgrade.

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    Appreciate all the replies

    It's disappointing that this can't be changed. I'm not sure how complicated it would be but it would be nice to have a setting option where you can pick what you prefer. Either the default box channel number as it is now or the provider channel numbers. Hopefully something like this can be added in a future firmware upgrade.

    Yes, that is the reality of using Z11 Pro series when loading your channels and playlists, MOL 3 has changed the way how live TV is programmed.

    I am also a fellow Z11 Pro user, but use a Pro Max version instead. While the way I interact live TV and VoD services has radically changed since my first Formuler device in 2019, the only thing I notice is you cannot list all the channels anymore and does not list the providers channel numbering.


    It would be better off using a Formuler device that can support the channel numbering that you have previously used in your old non-Formuler device.

    The previous versions, MOL 1 and MOL 2 supports the channel numbering of what you want (according to your provider) but not for the newer version which is currently MOL 3.

    For example, the English |USA group will start from the current number 140 instead of 1 from what you receive on the Z11 Pro.

    Which means the Z11 predecessor, the Z10 Pro / Pro Max still allows you to start the current channel number instead of "1" from each channel group.

    Meanwhile, on the Z11 series, this feature has been removed and that all groups from a portal are listed in order starting from 1 towards the end of channel number (depending on your service).

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    Quote from junkie_vince

    this week I had some issues with some channels so I reported it to my provider and they wanted the specific channel number which I wasn't able to provide without going to my other box

    Press Info - Info to bring up the detailed channel info.

    Look for the "SID" value. You can report this to your provider.

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    Then ask your Provider why he work with nose and not with his hands, if he know what he do, then he have enough data from you to find the right channel. To open category and find reported channel on place 20 (Z Box) is so easy also to find in same Category list from him, its on 20th place/same category not matter if there stays 20 or 1074 + if he get the Channel name i don't know what could wrong not find the right channel, lol.

    But....no.. its so easy to say users : I need what i need and don`t care what you give me.... because 20sec. more lost time is not acceptable :face_with_rolling_eyes: