BETA update - FW 11.2.0 and MOL3 11.2.10 for Formuler Z11 Series released.

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    Quote from Tom@8

    Hi,

    I was very happy that an update was released. I am a new user (NL) and ran into several issues on the former update. I tested this update by first resetting the factory settings and then the beta update over it. The Z11 pro max is replacing a Samsung SMT-C7140, and I still run into problems when recording after the beta update. I didn’t find my answers on the forum, so here we go;

    The following topics still cause problems:

    • EPG
      • Still lags an hour behind actual times (screenshots of settings may be available). Meanwhile Offset set to -1
      • Get max. 24 hours on screen, sometimes even less
    • Recording
      • Without an additional start a time being set:
        When setting up multiple contiguous programs with the recording icon the recording of the2nd program stops every time after a few minutes. Standby or shutdown mode of the Z11 does not matter.
      • In the event additional recording time is set in the settings and 2 programs on the same channel are set up one after the other to be recorded using the same icon as mentioned above, the Z11 indicates that a conflict arises (due to overlap due to the extra time before and after). The only option is then to uninstall the previously set program and so it is not possible to record the 2 programs that way. The Samsung SMT-C7140 automatically adjusted the time between the 2 programs so that they can be chosen after all that way. I don’t know for sure if this is a bug or a request feature, but can something like that be programmed on the Z11 as well? Else I would like to ask how one program after the other must be recorded with one single handling.
      • If the Z11 is turned off with the remote during a direct recording (visible at the red point at the top right of the screen), recording stops. In that case the HDD continues to run in shutdown mode by the way.
      • If during a direct recording been navigated to the guide on the remote, the red dot disappears, and you do not know on which channel is being recorded.

    I have taken pictures to clarify things, please let me know if you want me to send them.

    Keep up the good work,

    Quote from Tom@8

    Hi,

    I was very happy that an update was released. I am a new user (NL) and ran into several issues on the former update. I tested this update by first resetting the factory settings and then the beta update over it. The Z11 pro max is replacing a Samsung SMT-C7140, and I still run into problems when recording after the beta update. I didn’t find my answers on the forum, so here we go;

    The following topics still cause problems:

    • EPG
      • Still lags an hour behind actual times (screenshots of settings may be available). Meanwhile Offset set to -1
      • Get max. 24 hours on screen, sometimes even less
    • Recording
      • Without an additional start a time being set:
        When setting up multiple contiguous programs with the recording icon the recording of the2nd program stops every time after a few minutes. Standby or shutdown mode of the Z11 does not matter.
      • In the event additional recording time is set in the settings and 2 programs on the same channel are set up one after the other to be recorded using the same icon as mentioned above, the Z11 indicates that a conflict arises (due to overlap due to the extra time before and after). The only option is then to uninstall the previously set program and so it is not possible to record the 2 programs that way. The Samsung SMT-C7140 automatically adjusted the time between the 2 programs so that they can be chosen after all that way. I don’t know for sure if this is a bug or a request feature, but can something like that be programmed on the Z11 as well? Else I would like to ask how one program after the other must be recorded with one single handling.
      • If the Z11 is turned off with the remote during a direct recording (visible at the red point at the top right of the screen), recording stops. In that case the HDD continues to run in shutdown mode by the way.
      • If during a direct recording been navigated to the guide on the remote, the red dot disappears, and you do not know on which channel is being recorded.

    I have taken pictures to clarify things, please let me know if you want me to send them.

    Keep up the good work,

    Hi,TOM@8,i have similar epg issues (XC connection,max 24 hours in epg guide ahead)whereas on my z10pro i have a full week epg ahead (same provider) I hope the devs can fix this shortcoming for the z11 infuture

    Tom@8 Do you have more than one iptv provider to compare EPG timing?

    I live in Luxembourg, Europe VPN OFF and do not have this issue on any of my iptv providers.

    Strange...

    Also, I have checked ahead and have several days available in the EPG in all my iptv providers.

    If I think of anything else to help I will update...

    Tom@8 Could I suggest you maybe get a trial from another iptv provider or two to compare? A lot offer 24 hour trials.

    If memory serves me correctly I have had some similar issues in the past from some iptv providers and I could never get the EPG timing correct...for some reason...maybe they were always set at UTC...not sure...

    Anyway just a thought. Good luck.

    mrneilypops Hi, I am running the same stream from the same provider on an enigma 2 box and the EPG is bang on.

    Can anybody suggest some sort of configuration to get round this? I have no offset, auto time and date is off, time zone is GMT UTC and I’m using classic style. Still one hour out.

    Hi. Where i change the colors themes?

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    Quote from Roadrunner

    Enable configuration tools

    Is for Providers not for users.

    I did try to return to the official version, (Firmware: v11.1.41 and MYTVOnline 3: v11.1.70).
    However this is not possible, even after factory and hard reset of the box.
    All goes good, only MOL3 will not start, it say: "Warning" "MYTVOnline is exclusive available for Formuler Z11 equipment".

    I think this is because in the beta version you have to accept the new license agreement.
    So I must install the beta again to get a working box :frowning_face:

    Formuler Z11 Pro Max & Z11 Pro Max BT1 | XCAPI portal | Firmware 11.3.3 and MOL 12.1.15

    Location Netherlands GMT +1 (Summer time)

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    Quote from RonaldJan

    I did try to return to the official version, (Firmware: v11.1.41 and MYTVOnline 3: v11.1.70).
    However this is not possible, even after factory and hard reset of the box.
    All goes good, only MOL3 will not start, it say: "Warning" "MYTVOnline is exclusive available for Formuler Z11 equipment".

    I think this is because in the beta version you have to accept the new license agreement.
    So I must install the beta again to get a working box :frowning_face:

    Not possible to roll back the firmware version.

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    Quote from z11pronotmax

    Other thing i noticed is now when you open the app for the first time, the first channel don't get AFR, but if you change to other channel it will change AFR right away, maybe a bug brought by the nice intro logo? Not sure, anyways, just need to change channel quickly, no big deal...

    Is this reproducible on any channel on start-up or only on certain channels?

    Please PM me and share a video of the issue so it can be forwarded to the developers.

    Just one thing to add about the EPG - if I press guide, this is 1hr behind. However, if I press ok the EPG for that channel is wrong, but then if I press right arrow (EPG single), the EPG is correct.

    It’s the guide that is not correct but it is quite laborious to go to EPG single every time.

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    Quote from Vum0n

    Just one thing to add about the EPG - if I press guide, this is 1hr behind. However, if I press ok the EPG for that channel is wrong, but then if I press right arrow (EPG single), the EPG is correct.

    It’s the guide that is not correct but it is quite laborious to go to EPG single every time.

    Try to add +1h EPG offset in your content sources settings

    Quote from 175n

    Not possible to roll back the firmware version.

    I don't agree.

    It was always possible to do factory reset and after that the latest MOL3 will be installed.

    Now MOL3 will be installed, however it say:

    Warning "MYTVOnline is exclusive available for Formuler Z11 equipment"

    This make no sense, as it is a Formuler Z11 Pro Max Box!

    Formuler Z11 Pro Max & Z11 Pro Max BT1 | XCAPI portal | Firmware 11.3.3 and MOL 12.1.15

    Location Netherlands GMT +1 (Summer time)

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    Quote from RonaldJan

    I don't agree.

    It was always possible to do factory reset and after that the latest MOL3 will be installed.

    Now MOL3 will be installed, however it say:

    Warning "MYTVOnline is exclusive available for Formuler Z11 equipment"

    This make no sense, as it is a Formuler Z11 Pro Max Box!

    You forgot one important thing, with fw change there must be installed also the specific MOL3 version from same update.

    How ever, reported is something new and must be checked from Devs. Pleas follow 175n`s suggestion and make video of the issue so this can be fixed until the beta phase runs. Thank you.

    Quote from Dan12345678

    Okay will wait for Sam to respond. Cheers

    Providers have to open ticket on Formuler Helpdesk and ask for needed data. This is something what we not share here on Forum or give further Informations.

    Quote from mouss

    hello sam tell me the scaling of the channel list is still not relevant after the big update.

    It has no big priority because it is not Bug like you see it, it is GUI change at some point. How ever i will discuss this again and ask for Info.

    Quote from SAM

    You forgot one important thing, with fw change there must be installed also the specific MOL3 version from same update.

    How ever, reported is something new and must be checked from Devs. Pleas follow 175n`s suggestion and make video of the issue so this can be fixed until the beta phase runs. Thank you.

    Providers have to open ticket on Formuler Helpdesk and ask for needed data. This is something what we not share here on Forum or give further Informations.

    It has no big priority because it is not Bug like you see it, it is GUI change at some point. How ever i will discuss this again and ask for Info.

    Hi Sam, do you need a video for the recording issues I posted? And am I the only one who experiance this behavior regarding the recording of 2 programs after each other using the quide button?

    luv the update ,been waiting for new themes,the disable content cause me issues though ,when i tried to disable one of my subs the screen froze and i had to force close mytvonline app but when i checked on restart the sub was disabled,request as well here ,when i press down button on the remote dpad to bring up the quick groups ui can we have a small epg box

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    Quote from Tom@8

    Hi Sam, do you need a video for the recording issues I posted? And am I the only one who experiance this behavior regarding the recording of 2 programs after each other using the quide button?

    Sure , post your video and detailed explain what have you done before exactly, thx.

    Quote from Madridokok

    the addition of the input configuration code but it does not work unfortunately

    Please check my older posting #66-> RE: BETA update - FW 11.2.0 and MOL3 11.2.10 for Formuler Z11 Series released.

    Create ticket, thank you.

    Quote from Vum0n

    How quickly should the EPG update on say one provider?

    Depends from inside from your sub. and how much is activated. First time load maybe 45sec. Later you do not see the load in the background if Z11 in use.

    Quote from SAM

    You forgot one important thing, with fw change there must be installed also the specific MOL3 version from same update.

    How ever, reported is something new and must be checked from Devs. Pleas follow 175n`s suggestion and make video of the issue so this can be fixed until the beta phase runs. Thank you.

    I don't know which suggestion from 175N you are pointing to, pls indicate the post nr.

    I not able to make a video.

    I did install the beta release, but found that my EPG info was completly gone, so I decide to go back to the official release, by doing factory reset.

    After the factory reset you automatically will arive in the software install screen with the latest official release, and when you continue it will install Firmware: v11.1.41 and MYTVOnline 3: v11.1.70.

    But then when I start MOL3, it shows the below screen, and you can't start MOL3.
    Thus I was forced, again to install the beta release, and to be able to have a working MOL3.
    Lucky enough the EPG data is back again, after several times reloading/refresh the content.

    My point is that it should always be possible to go back to the latest official release from a beta version.

    Never the less, I'm happy with the Z11 Pro Max, as it works for me as I want (with some workarounds :smiling_face: )

    Formuler Z11 Pro Max & Z11 Pro Max BT1 | XCAPI portal | Firmware 11.3.3 and MOL 12.1.15

    Location Netherlands GMT +1 (Summer time)

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    You can't roll back the firmware. Maybe you didn't understand the first time.

    You installed v11.2.0 Beta firmware and MOL3 v11.2.0.

    You uninstalled MOL3 v11.2.0 and tried to roll back to MOL3 11.1.70

    MOL3 11.1.70 isn't compatible with Firmware 11.2.0

    That is why you're seeing the message. If you want the message to go away install MOL3 11.2.0 beta again.

    Quote from 175n

    You can't roll back the firmware. Maybe you didn't understand the first time.

    You installed v11.2.0 Beta firmware and MOL3 v11.2.0.

    You uninstalled MOL3 v11.2.0 and tried to roll back to MOL3 11.1.70

    MOL3 11.1.70 isn't compatible with Firmware 11.2.0

    That is why you're seeing the message. If you want the message to go away install MOL3 11.2.0 beta again.

    I got it now.

    And yes, I did install the beta again.
    I just think from a beta, as it not a final release, and for testing purpose, you should be able to go back.

    Thats anyway my expierence with other, like computer firmware.

    No further problem, thxs :smiling_face:

    Formuler Z11 Pro Max & Z11 Pro Max BT1 | XCAPI portal | Firmware 11.3.3 and MOL 12.1.15

    Location Netherlands GMT +1 (Summer time)

    Something weird happened to me with this new update.

    2 Random reboots, on one of them i lost favorites and pinned groups, then i did new favorites and pinned groups again and in the next one i didn't lost anything, but it's the first time i get random reboots...

    Another thing is channels are again taking a bit more time to load, not like before the first beta update but still...

    Vod is working fine, curious, all my history on VOD wasn't lost after those random reboots, neither favorites shows and movies, weird...but as this is BETA i guess i'm going to see some weird stuff!! lol

    I did a backup just in case. More testing needed. I've asked my provider to give me more connections so i can test the same provider in playlist, xc and stalker mode. Will test it today to see where is more stable!!!